ÿþ<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" /> <!-- InstanceBeginEditable name="doctitle" --> <title>The Voice Of Orthodoxy</title> <style type="text/css"> <!-- body { background-color: #ecedf2; } .style81 {color: #0C5ADC; font-weight: bold; } .style82 {font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold; } --> </style></head> <BODY LEFTMARGIN=0 TOPMARGIN=0 MARGINWIDTH=0 MARGINHEIGHT=0> <table width="784" height="111" border="0" align="center" bordercolor="#E9E9E9" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <tr> <td height="45" bgcolor="#9999FF"> <p align="center"><font size="+6" COLOR = #990000> THE VOICE OF ORTHODOXY</p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td height="45" bgcolor="#9999FF" valign="top" > <p align="center"><b><font size="+2"> <i>A Bimonthly Conservative Journal To Defend The Apostolic Faith, Morals And Canons Of The Ancient Orthodox Church.</b></i> <strong> <table width="784" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td align = "left">Volume : XIV</td> <td align = "center"> NOVEMBER - DECEMBER 2010</td> <td align = "right">Issue : 6</td> </tr> </table> </strong> <marquee scrollamount="2" direction="left"><i>ORTHODOXY: THE TRUTH BEARER; FOR REQUESTS CALL: 773-480-7273</i></marquee> </p> </td> </tr> </table> <table width="784" height="758" border="0" align="center" bordercolor="#E9E9E9" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <tr> <td width="164" height="182" rowspan="2" valign="top" bgcolor="#9999FF"><br /> <table width="96%" height="75" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" bgcolor="#9999FF"> <tbody> <tr> <td width="153" valign="top"> <table> <tr> <p><img src="../../images/st.mary.jpg" width="153" height="209" /></p> </tr> </table> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#eef5f9"> <td bgcolor="#ecedf2" height="14"><table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="1" width="98%" align="center" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td width="15%" height="16"><div align="right"> <div align="justify"><font color="#333333" size="2"><width="8" height="9" /></font></div> </div></td> <td align="justify" width="85%"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#333333" size="2"><a href="../../default.html">Home</a></font></td> </tr> </tbody> </table></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#eef5f9"> <td bgcolor="#ecedf2" height="14"><table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="1" width="98%" align="center" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td width="15%" height="16"><div align="right"> <div align="justify"><font color="#333333" size="2"><width="8" height="9" /></font></div> </div></td> <td align="justify" width="85%"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#333333" size="2"><a href="../../current.html">Current Issue</a></font></td> </tr> </tbody> </table></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#eef5f9"> <td bgcolor="#ecedf2" height="21"><table width="99%" height="18" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1"> <tbody> <tr> <td width="15%"><div align="right"> <div align="justify"><font color="#333333" size="2"><width="8" height="9" /></font></div> </div></td> <td align="justify" width="85%"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#333333" size="2"><a href="../../archives.html">Archives</a></font></td> </tr> </tbody> </table></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </br> <font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>Sponsors &gt;&gt;</strong></font><br /> <table width="98%" height="159" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" bgcolor="#ecedf2"> <tbody> <tr bgcolor="#eef5f9"> <td width="149" bgcolor="#ecedf2" height="23"><table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="1" width="100%" align="center" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td><div align="justify"></div> <font color="#333333" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" class="style45"><b>Coming Soon..</b></font></td> </tr> </tbody> </table></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><!-- InstanceBeginEditable name="EditRegion13" --> <table width="620" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td width="614" height="476" valign="top"> <h1 align="center"><font size="6" face="Palatino Linotype"><b>On Problematic Spiritual Fathers and &quot;Misguided Obedience&quot;</b></font></h1><p align="center"><font size="3" face="Liberation Serif"><b>By Elder Porphyrios</b></font></p><h2></h2><font size="3" face="Palatino Linotype">1. Take care which spiritual fathers you go to</font> <h2 align="justify"></h2><font size="3" face="Palatino Linotype">A brother told me: Once, when my job was in a rural area, my wife had gone to a very strict spiritual father. When she had confessed a weakness of hers that she would have repeated, he berated her, he intimidated her and ever since that experience, it took her a very long time to decide to go to confession again. </font><p align="justify"><font size="3" face="Palatino Linotype">&quot;<b>Do you see</b>&quot;, the elderly Father said to him, &quot;<b>what excessive austerity can do? That&#39;s why I tell you, take care which spiritual fathers you go to for confession - both you and your wife as well as your children - and above all, be honest in whatever you say, because that way, God will forgive everything and you will move up, spiritually</b>.&quot;</font></p><p align="justify"><font size="2" face="Palatino Linotype">[Hieromonk Elder Porphyrios, «COLLECTED COUNSELS», Published by the Sacred Nunnery Retreat «The Transfiguration of the Saviour», 2002, page 337]. </font></p><h2 align="justify"></h2><font size="3" face="Palatino Linotype"><b>2. Some spiritual fathers commit a crime</b></font> <br><p align="justify"><font size="3" face="Palatino Linotype">Look, my child! Our God, in His desire to educate His children who believe, trust, love Him and worship Him, resorts to various ways, methods and plans. Among the plans of our God is also the imposition of rules, which of course always aspire to the salvation of our souls. The same applies in your case. We cannot change or delete God&#39;s plans. What is more, we cannot impose any on Him. But we can however ask of Him and beseech Him, and He, being the philanthropist that He is, can hearken to our prayers and shorten Time - or even dispense with it. Either way, it is up to Him. We ask for something, and He is the one who will approve.</font></p><p align="justify"><font size="3" face="Palatino Linotype">Even so, these rules do not have the character of revenge or punishment, but of education - and <b>they have nothing to do with the rules imposed by certain spiritual fathers during Confession, who, either out of excessive zeal or out of ignorance, exhaust the limits of punishment without realizing that in that way, they are committing a crime instead of doing any good</b>. I always scold them and counsel them: No severe punishments, just sound advice. Because severe punishments will only supply the &quot;other one&quot; (the devil) with a large clientele; that is exactly what he lies in wait for, and always waits with open arms to receive them! He in fact even promises them impossible things....</font></p><p align="justify"><font size="3" face="Palatino Linotype"><b>That is why the choice of spiritual father demands extreme attention. Just as you would seek the best possible doctor, you should do the same for a spiritual father. They are both doctors - one is for the body, the other for the soul!</b></font></p><p align="justify"><font size="2" face="Palatino Linotype">[Hieromonk Elder Porphyrios, «COLLECTED COUNSELS», Published by the Sacred Nunnery Retreat «The Transfiguration of the Saviour», 2002, page 337]. </font></p><h2 align="justify"></h2><font size="3" face="Palatino Linotype"><b>3. Pay attention to what you say to spiritual fathers</b></font> <h2 align="justify"></h2><font size="3" face="Palatino Linotype">&quot;<b>Be careful what you say to the spiritual fathers that you have chosen for Confession. Because they don&#39;t know everything. They must be very wise, discerning and experienced. They must have God&#39;s spirit within them, in order to be able to solve your various problems</b>.&quot;</font> <br><p align="justify"><font size="3" face="Palatino Linotype">It should be clarified here, that he was not referring to the simple, everyday sins that we all commit, but to the more profound meanings, like the prayer of the heart, the offensives of the wicked one etc...</font></p><p align="justify"><font size="2" face="Palatino Linotype">[Hieromonk Elder Porphyrios, «COLLECTED COUNSELS», Published by the Sacred Nunnery Retreat «The Transfiguration of the Saviour», 2002, page 342]. </font></p><h2 align="justify"></h2><font size="3" face="Palatino Linotype"><b>4. Some spiritual fathers can confuse you</b></font> <h2 align="justify"></h2><font size="3" face="Palatino Linotype">&quot;When you are a long way from the city&quot;, he said to a brother, &quot;and you can&#39;t come here regularly, you should seek out a very good spiritual father there, to confess your sins. But whatever else preoccupies you with regard to the prayer of the heart or your <b>thoughts</b>, do not mention it to them, because some of them do not know everything and <b>they can confuse you</b>. You should come here and discuss the other issues with me.&quot;</font><p align="justify"><font size="2" face="Palatino Linotype">[Hieromonk Elder Porphyrios, «COLLECTED COUNSELS», Published by the Sacred Nunnery Retreat «The Transfiguration of the Saviour», 2002, page 341]. </font></p><h2 align="justify"></h2><font size="3" face="Palatino Linotype"><b>5. Spiritual guides who are animated by a Papist spirit</b></font> <h2 align="justify"></h2><font size="3" face="Palatino Linotype">I was discussing a related subject with him: It was about a certain &quot;strict&quot; spiritual father, who had refused to approve the wish of his spiritual child to visit the Elder Porphyrios and talk to him about a serious personal problem of his. This incident had made a painful impression on me and I told him about it. The Elder shook his head sadly and whispered: &quot;<b>What can I say? You see, he is also a spiritual father</b>&quot;. The Elder was always very careful and lenient in his judgments of others - especially when it pertained to priests who made mistakes. In lieu of a characterization, he preferred to speak to me parabolically: </font> <h2 align="justify"></h2><font size="3" face="Palatino Linotype"><i>&quot;You know, when a </i><b><i>Papist missionary</i></b></font><font size="3" face="Liberation Serif"><b> </b></font><font size="3" face="Palatino Linotype"><i>receives instructions for a mission, he gets onto a plane in Rome and when he arrives at the airport of an African country, that&#39;s where he opens a sealed envelope and reads what his mission involves - which he is obliged to execute, even if he disagrees with it. </i><b><i>With us Orthodox it is not like that</i></b><i>.&quot;</i></font> <h2 align="justify"></h2><font size="3" face="Palatino Linotype">I understood - more or less - what he was trying to tell me. Besides, it wasn&#39;t the first time I had observed that <b>there also exist in the Orthodox sphere several spiritual guides (fortunately few), who are essentially driven by a Papist mentality</b>; who demand that their instructions be obeyed, in total disregard of the inner resistances of their spiritual children. <b>They tend to cultivate a totalitarian mentality; because they themselves fear freedom they impose discipline, ignoring the fact that Orthodox obedience is the fruit of freedom</b>. It wasn&#39;t long before that bossy compulsion brought on the inevitable results: That same spiritual child of the &quot;strict&quot; spiritual father eventually declared to his friends (who had exhorted him to go to the Elder Porphyrios) that he no longer desired to visit him. In one of my visits to the Elder, I said to him: &quot;<b>I think that the reason he doesn&#39;t come to you is not so much because he doesn&#39;t want to, but because he is showing obedience to his spiritual father</b>.&quot;</font> <br><p align="justify"><font size="3" face="Palatino Linotype">The Elder surprised me, when he replied: &quot;<b>He is showing obedience, because the advice of his spiritual father satisfied his ego</b>.&quot; It was the first time that I had ever heard the Elder speak so openly about a spiritual faux-pas. I knew he wasn&#39;t doing it because he felt personally offended. The Elder himself never invited people to visit him. <i>(I knew of one exception only, and even that was on account of the fervent pleas by the friends of a certain prejudiced person who was suffering. It was essentially a response to their direct request for a meeting). </i>The Elder did not seek to acquire followers; he simply helped out whoever sought his help at his cell. It is possible he spoke thus openly to me, because he wanted to reveal yet another example of deceitfulness by the devil, among the Christians. And it made me think: &quot;So, the motive behind that person&#39;s obedience was the gratification of his ego.&quot; </font> <br></p><p align="justify"><font size="2" face="Palatino Linotype">[Hieromonk Elder Porphyrios, «COLLECTED COUNSELS», Published by the Sacred Nunnery Retreat «The Transfiguration of the Saviour», 2002, pages 387-389]. </font> <br> <br></p> </td> </tr> </table> <!-- InstanceEndEditable --></td> </tr> </table> </body> <!-- InstanceEnd --></html>