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An Exclusive
Interview with His Eminence Metropolitan Abba Seraphim of Glastonbury
By George
Alexander
The
Voice of Orthodoxy New Editor & Chief Coordinator of OBL Public
Relations
(His
Eminence Metropolitan Abba Seraphim of Glastonbury is the Head
of the British Coptic Orthodox Church (under the Coptic Orthodox Patriarchate).
He was interviewed by our News Editor on January 18, 2010 at Cochin,
Keralam, India, when he visited the Metropolitan as a Delegate of Orthodoxy
Beyond Limits when its OBL Forum Delegation Meeting with the Metropolitan
took place at Cochin, the most important centre of Christian concentration
in the State of Keralam)
British Orthodox Church
The British Orthodox Church
is a local church, anxious to bring the Orthodox faith to the people
of our country. We work closely with the other Orthodox churches but
our ministry is for British people who desire to become Orthodox. Our
particular mission is to bring Orthodoxy to our people.
His Eminence Abba Seraphim
I am entirely of English
descent. I was bought up as a nominal Anglican but I converted to Orthodoxy
when I was about 16. My mother’s cousin was the previous Metropolitan
of the British Orthodox Church who introduced me to Orthodoxy when I
first met him in my teens. Eventually I was ordained by him and eventually
succeeded him. Between us we have looked after the Church for the past
sixty-six years. I was trained as a school master, in my early days
teaching English in secondary schools.
What Attracted Your Eminence to Orthodoxy?
I wasn’t happy with the
Anglican Church; its reformed nature is not consistent with the Apostolic
Tradition. I was looking for a church with an authentic apostolic witness.
I was initially attracted to the Roman Catholic faith and sometimes
attended mass with my friends, but I never wanted to join them, since
to me they appeared ‘foreign.’ There was something alien in the
Roman Catholic spirituality to me. When I came to Orthodoxy I discovered
the richness of the Apostolic tradition in its fullness and it didn’t
bother me that there would be services in different languages. Its catholicity
seems to be expressed in the fact that it encompasses people form the
ice-bound northern Russian Steppes to the warm shores of Kerala. Orthodoxy
certainly possesses true catholicity, although sometimes our mentality
may appear to be narrow.
BOC relationship with
Sister Orthodox churches and other Non-orthodox Churches.
We work actively through
the Council of Oriental Orthodox Churches in the United Kingdom. This
also participates in a Forum with the Roman Catholic and also with the
Anglican Church, which each meet every six months. These Forums are
there to reflect at local level the main international dialogue. They
are not the big theological debates at international level but work
at the local level to find ways of cooperating and witnessing together.
On Eastern - Oriental Orthodox Dialogue
This is the most promising
of all dialogues because already we have reached agreement that we share
a common faith and tradition. Diversity is desirable. The Oriental Orthodox
Churches each have wonderful local traditions and diversity. We also
enjoy very good relations with our sister Eastern Orthodox Churches.
In our ECL delegation we have our dear friend, Archimandrite Deiniol
here, who is the director of the Wales Orthodox Mission of the Ukrainian
Archdiocese within the Ecumenical Patriarchate. Even though we are not
in formal communion we work as if we are one. We cooperate in many areas.
Relationship Between
the British Orthodox Church and
the Indian Orthodox Church
I am impressed by the high
educational standards of the Indian Orthodox Church. Your seminaries
promote Orthodox scholarship and education and this is reflected by
the clergy I meet. In the United Kingdom we actively co-operate: our
priests and people attend Indian Orthodox Church services in Britain
and we have made available some of our church building for Indian Orthodox
use. We are delighted to have among us Dr. Mathews Mor Timotheos as
the Metropolitan of the UK Diocese of the Indian Church, who is also
the Chairman of the Council of Oriental Orthodox Churches in the UK.
I would like to have closer relation with the Orthodox Theological Seminary
at Kottayam. A number of our clergy are good academics and it would
be interesting to have some formal interchange. We would love to work
with any one who has a wide Orthodox vision. In some ways there is a
common history between BOC and IOC since we both originate from the
Syriac Orthodox tradition. Both churches are looking to present Orthodoxy
to our people in our own culture and there is an inherent mission in
that.
BOC Clergy Training
Unfortunately we don’t
yet have our own seminary. Several of our clergy have studied at secular
universities or part-time at Anglican Theological seminaries. We have
priests with good educational standards, but we find it difficult in
finding new priests. There are a number of good converts in BOC, but
if their wives are not Orthodox they are not eligible. We can ordain
them only if their wives are also Orthodox. We have the old-fashioned
monitorial system where potential ordinands are attached to one of the
senior priests or to me, as the bishop. In that way and through guided
study, they are prepared for their roles as deacons and priests. I am
the only bishop and was consecrated in 1977, succeeding my elderly cousin
when he died in 1979.
Converts
All our members are converts,
but it is not that easy to be an Orthodox Christian. People must have
a full commitment to the Orthodox life in all its aspects. You can’t
become Orthodox just because you have a problem with the Anglican Church
or you want to change your denominational affiliation. There must be
a total commitment to the Orthodox faith and tradition, a commitment
to serve and worship the Lord in the Orthodox way.
BOC Relations with Coptic
Orthodox Church
We are the same church and
I am a member of the Coptic Holy Synod under His Holiness Pope Shenouda
III. We have three Egyptian Coptic Bishops in the United Kingdom (Bishop
Antony for the Coptic Orthodox diocese of Scotland, Ireland & North-East
England; Bishop Missael of the diocese of Birmingham, in the Midlands
and General Bishop Angelos at the Coptic Centre in Stevenage, just outside
London). We are very close. After their ordination several of our BOC
clergy spend their “forty days” training with Coptic clergy. We
also give our support for Coptic Christians suffering problems for their
faith and visit the mother church frequently
On Eastern Christian Links
Eastern Christian Links
(ECL) – “Reconnecting East and West” is an ecumenical Christian
initiative founded in 2004 by Nicholas Crampton, a Norfolk lawyer to
encourage local Churches to explore the history, liturgy and traditions
of the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox churches. He felt that may Christians
in the west have limited knowledge of the Oriental Orthodox and Eastern
Churches. I am a Patron of Eastern Christian links. He wanted to make
people more aware, so he approached his local Anglican and Roman Catholic
bishops and he approached me. We all gave our blessing to this ecumenical
project and I helped lead our first trip abroad was to South-Eastern
Turkey, where we encountered Greek, Armenian and Syrian Orthodox Christians.
We found that we could share these spiritual experiences, even though
we are from diverse backgrounds. That is valuable.
The Kerala Experience
It has been wonderful. I
had read a lot about Kerala and the Indian Church in books and met clergy
and faithful in England, so in that way am familiar with the history
of the Indian church, but it is not the same as experiencing the life
of the church on its own soil. I am indeed fascinated to see and meet
the Indian Church in all its richness and vitality. It had always been
my desire to pray at the shrine of Saint Gregorios at Parumala and that
was something precious and memorable. This has been a true pilgrimage.
On Orthodoxy Beyond Limits Forum
I am always excited by anything
that promotes Orthodoxy. The work of OBL crossing the boundaries and
promoting unity between the two families is something very close to
my heart. We had talks in Stockholm on how we could push forward the
dialogue between our two Orthodox families. It is sometimes frustrating
that we are not moving as quickly as we might wish, but these things
are in God’s hand. It is good that the OBL work is coming from the
ground level, from the bottom up. I think it is very important because
the dialogue papers all talk about going back and telling our people.
I see that is beginning to happen especially among the educated youth
in the Church. I hope it will be one of several vehicles to that promotes
Orthodox Unity.
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